[Lekooks] Second Booster

Wed Mar 30 12:48:38 CDT 2022

Hi Mike,
Just kidding about wearing a mask while eating.  I don't.  However,  I am still masking up in other indoor spaces.
Peace,
Fran

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Subject: Re: [Lekooks] Second Booster

I have to say, it’s virtually impossible to eat or drink while wearing an N95 mask (although I believe you could probably slip a straw under it - but then there’s the whole ecological issue with straws!!)

For those who are concerned, a surgical mask provides substantial benefit against COVID as well, and you can temporarily  lift up the bottom of it to allow you to eat or drink. That would be a reasonable compromise.

Personally, I’m no longer wearing a mask in public, but I do respect the caution demonstrated by those who do.  If AB1 causes a significant surge, I’ll reluctantly resume masking up!  ��

All my best,
Mike

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On Mar 30, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Fran B. via Lekooks <lekooks at lekook.org> wrote:

Mike, thanks so much for your very informative comments. It seems there are no adverse risks in getting a second booster.  I am 6 months out from my first. I continue to wear a mask in public places but have found food does not easily pass through an N94 �� so leave it off in restaurants.
Fran ��

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Subject: Re: [Lekooks] Second Booster

I should have included that there are in fact some studies that show mild increases in infection rates and very mild increases in more severe outcomes in people going over 6 months without a booster.  So another booster would be expected to result in a mild reduction in infection risk and very mild reduction in severe infection.

That's the benefit I mentioned that outweighs the risk of getting the (less than optimal) vaccine.

(I'd anticipate that a vaccine that incorporates all the more recent variants would have a significantly greater impact on reducing infection and severe outcomes, but c'est la vie.)

Thanks again,
Mike

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On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 11:10:52 AM CDT, Michael McNett via Lekooks <lekooks at lekook.org> wrote:

Hi, Fran,

To be honest, I'm not a strong advocate for a second booster, though I'll probably get one.  There's a great deal of ambivalence about it among Public Health physicians, Immunologists, and Infectious Disease specialists.

I would vastly prefer a second booster that includes specific immunity to the variants that have developed since the first vaccine was formulated - the alpha, beta, delta, and omicron variants.  It seems unbelievable to me that they haven't modified it but are just promoting another dose of a vaccine that's over a year old - this is comparable to promoting last year's flu vaccine.

It's notable that a study recently came out of Great Britain showing that if you're double vaccinated + boosted, your risk of long-haul symptoms was only 2%.

Also, many of the claims of "loss of immunity" are based not on increasing infection or severity but on drops in antibody levels in the blood.  The problem with this is that in some cases (COVID being a good example), the body saves energy by not continuing to produce antibodies and additional white blood cells to fight a virus that hasn't been present for months, but immunity against it still remains.  The cell lines that developed from infection or vaccination lie dormant (like hibernating) until they detect viral antigens.  As soon as they do, they "wake up," start dividing rapidly, and the ones that produce antibodies reactivate to do so within hours.  Studies have proven that COVID immunity remains robust even after antibody levels drop.

However, that being said, even though the benefits of the second booster are fairly small, they outweigh its risks.  As a result, I suppose I'll get it.

Thanks,
Mike

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Gandhi: "Yes, I turned the world upside down. I stood on my head."

On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 09:32:55 AM CDT, Fran B. via Lekooks <lekooks at lekook.org> wrote:

Dear Friends,
Yesterday, the FDA approved a second booster for those over 50. I have scheduled a second Moderna booster for tomorrow at Pro Health Waukesha Memorial Hospital. Call 262-928-5566 for an appointment. You will need to tell them the dates and location of the first three shots and bring the card. Boosters are administered on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

I know there is some controversy over whether this is necessary as the first three shots probably prevent hospitalization and/or death. However, even mild, or asymptomatic cases of Covid can lead to long haul symptoms which might be permanent. I recently read that those who have had Covid are more susceptible to type 2 Diabetes.
Wishing all of you good health and happiness,
Fran
PS: I think Aurora Summit is administering second boosters of Pyzer but not Moderna.
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